We all live in a yellow submarine, a tiny submarine, a nanosubmarine.
 


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Dance of molecules Chapter 8: Interact

Sarah Petzold
The reading made me think of cyborgs. What is humanity going to define as a cyborg? Will they become a different class of citizens? I realize that a lot of technology today still has a long way to go before these questions are pertinent, however as with nanotechnology these technologies will change the way the world is viewed.

Heather Lautman
Overall, I thought this chapter was pretty cool in terms of concepts: being able to 'cure' blindness so that those can see again. But on page 169, at the end of the chapter he says, "allowing me to read the news with no paper- not even e-paper- just a direct signal to my brain." Where is the control here? How is it decided then to what signals you receive?

Galen Frechette 
I think that there is a potential for some of these "enhancement" technologies to become safety requirements for certain jobs or activities.

Mike Pennisi
Is Sargent a trans-humanist? While he is always trying to excite the reader about the future of nanotechnology, his tone and imagination seem to indicate that he personally supports the idea of technological enhancement. By including this topic in his book, Sagent is at least recognizing the allure these technologies can have.


James Johnston
The realization that most of the things which Sargent described as becoming more personal, (e.g. computers in clothing have major potentional risks of absolute survalence.) In such devices that were giving off signals and electromagnetic fields a small bug could be placed that would be able to track movements.  "Bugs" currently have the pontential to emit pulses every 12 hours with hardly undectecible signals. The question of both little brother and big brother come into play more often as we advance into this new age. Are we really just going to accept such things? 

Grant Boucher
Top of page 165: "We could go farther still: why not cut out the middleman and go straight from the idea of an image to our perception of it?" What kind of impact would this have on our idea of art if suddenly anyone's wildest imagination could be projected for all to see?

Alison Marie Kenner “Securing the Elderly Body: Dementia, Surveillance, and the Politics of “Aging in Place”” http://www.surveillance-and-society.org/articles5(3)/elderly.pdf


Andrew Nelson
How would you feel if you had to make this decision for your mother/grandmother? Would you say yes to monitoring which would make it easier to take care of your relative or say no and spend more time making sure they were ok? What about for yourself? If you somehow saw the onset of dementia coming would what decision would you make about yourself being monitored?

Daniel Schaffer
I don't want to get old. It may be just as important to monitor the caregivers as it is to monitor the elderly.  Andrew really hits the nail on the head, as this article really sends a chill down the spine of anyone that plans to live past 65.  It also brings to mind a fearsome thought:  How much resources are devoted to keeping citizens with dementia at home? What are the benefits of aging in place vs. aging at the old folks home in terms of environmental, economic, and social progress?


Andrew Krushelnyski

As Andrew and Dan stated this is simply one of those decisions/situations that no one would like to become involved in.  On a personal account my grandparents live nearly fifteen minutes away and are 92 and 88.  Mind wise they seem ok but have slowed down in the time that I have spent with them.  The more noticeable aging is in their eyesight and movement.  Shopping is a two hour task that I help them with over the summer and when that is done they are so tired that the rest of the day is practically a waste.  Now the question of whether I would like them to be placed in an old folks home or what not... my answer is absolutely not because it simply makes them feel like a little child again.  I know that my grandpa especially doesnt like to accept that there are some things he simply cannot do and this would just mentally make things worse in a controlled home for elderly.  I feel that being placed in an old folks home should be up to the elderly unless obviousy they cannot make the decision themselves.















Chris Toumey “Privacy in the Shadow of Nanotechnology.” NanoEthics 1 (3), 2007, p.211 http://www.springerlink.com.libproxy.rpi.edu/content/526237w054706683/fulltext.pdf 

Jim Mckenna
If a "society that depends on trust needs to maintain privacy," then what will happen if privacy is breached and trust is lost? Not only has this already begun to happen, but if nano survailance evolves as it does in this article, I believe this will lead to more resentment against our government and ultimately lead to a revolution (rosa parks/ rodney king).

Tracy Breslin
"Variations of values and experiences from nation to nation."  I think its interesting to see the cultural differences, especially between Americans and Europeans, of different patterns of acceptance.

Christine O'Rourke

If the details of our personal lives are already out there I think that regardless of how nanotechnology advances people will find a way to get the information they want. In the past criminals and companies have always been able to find a way to get the information they wanted without the use of nanotechnology , which makes me feel that while nanotechnology would enhance the bad habits of the information systems I almost feel like the information would eventually become available anyway.


Rachel Ferebee
Over-regulation vs. privacy
Would regulating nanotechnology to protect privacy significantly affect the gains of that market?
Is it more important for privacy to be protected or to have a less restricted market?

Andrew Starr
Government and privacy(this is a bit of a continuation of Rachel's comment).  How much should gov't regulate itself.  Was the DNA example acceptable?

Alex Lamparski As mentioned, companies and everyday people have been able to find 'private' information on others even without the help of nanotechnology. However, with nanotech- a whole new way of accessing information is brought to the surface. Elections, courtrooms and work places will be the proving grounds of how much nanotechnology can really affect the world around us. 

Torin Monahan and Tyler Wall “Somatic Surveillance: Corporeal Control through Information Networks” Surveillance & Society  4(3): 154-173. http://www.surveillance-and-society.org/articles4(3)/somatic.pdf 

Jason Bernardo On page 19, the article talks about RFID implants that are used to buy and sell with the use of credit card information.  Is this the future of money and are we willing to be implanted with these microchips?  What kind of security and privacy issues arise from this kind of technology?  Is this the mark of the beast as foretold in the book of revelation?

Joyce Chow
"To survive future wars and problems, individual soldiers are envisioned as having their physiologies constantly monitored by military-medical personnel." This comes down to playing a war game and comparing soldiers  based on their lifeline (mimicking the lifeline bar in video games) to decide which weaker soldier to sacrifice in the frontline.

Andrew Cunningham

(p169) "The networks within which bodies become nodes are valenced toward objectifying and extracting value from individuals while stripping away social context.  Network-centric warfare 

perceives bodies as discrete, autonomous entities that can be controlled remotely for strategic ends."  

(p158) "In public statements, it is easy to discern the rhetoric of 'what is good for the military is also good for society.'"


Do we want a new way to become just another number?  And how is what is best for the military what is best for us true?


Molly Danskin

“RFID implants have already distinguished themselves as being multi-purpose and highly controversial.” Is the practice of implanting microchips in animals for tracking purposes likewise controversial? This practice is already in widespread use pet owners tracking cats and dogs, as well as the US Fish and Wildlife Service for research related to grizzly bears, elk, giant land tortoises, and others. In general, I think we accept this technology because we feel like we are ‘looking after’/’taking care of’ the animals – would the analogous acceptance of RFID implants in people then be akin to accepting someone to ‘look after’ us in the same way?


Ishan Gaur
Towards the end, the author reinstated the importance of "networks within bodies" from the military point of view. Then he mentions how it may be similarly used with civilians to monitor health, identify and recognize treatment. Assuming that at one point this tech. does become affordable and readily available to the normal people, what would they choose: better healthcare or independence (from electronic monitors)?

Matt Naples
The same arguments of RFID seemed to come about during the electronic money age with credit cards, online transfers, and other cashless systems. 
Right now the government is close to knowing everywhere I go through use of the cashless system and the internet.