Special Session of
the Faculty Senate
March 5, 2002
Presentation by President Jackson regarding the new graduate tuition policies and the perception of centralized authority by the Administration
President Jackson outlined the decisions made by the administration,
and approved by the Trustees, regarding graduate tuition and policies. She
presented a set of rules developed by the Administration that will become
effective on March 8, 2002. The decisions were based upon her desire to make
President Jackson also gave her views on the perception by
the faculty of growing centralized authority by the Administration. She
stressed a need for "order on the planet" rather than to have different
scenarios for graduate teaching and research. President Jackson concluded her
remarks by asking for questions from the faculty. Through subsequent
discussions with faculty she again stressed a need for overall institutional
policies that minimize individual faculty optimizations. At the close of the
session she noted that incentives would be put in place to move all
Professional Masters Degrees to the
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A transcript of the session
follows. This
transcript is slightly modified to eliminate redundancies. President Linnda Caporael
welcomed President Shirley Ann Jackson and seventy-five members of the
faculty who attended this special session of the President Jackson launched a
presentation regarding Graduate Tuition. She reiterated that the new graduate
full-time tuition rate would be the same as the undergraduate rate recently
set by the Board of Trustees at $26,400 per year. Secondly, graduate students
who get support from the institute, on central funds, or other promised
support from contracts and grants will receive a minimum stipend. If the
institution promised graduate TA's or RA's support, those students will get
support for a specified period of time. The minimum academic year stipend is
$12,000; the minimum calendar year stipend (students who are working on
research grants and working all the time) is $60,000. A transition plan has
been worked out that focuses on current graduate students in various
categories that grandfathers them in as much as possible, procuring the money
for primarily one to two years. President Jackson mentioned
that setting the overall framework for tuition is the responsibility and
authority of the Board of Trustees. Every year the undergraduate tuition has
been set. Over the years the focus has been on undergraduate tuition and
there in fact has been a proliferation of practices and de facto policy that
has never been brought before the Board regarding graduate tuition. As part
of this overall transition, every category that we know about concerning
tuition itself and the practices associated with it, was taken to the Board
of Trustees. Graduate tuition here at What was found through the pool
of universities studied (i.e., Stanford, MIT, Cornell, Carnegie-Mellon,
Cal-Tech, and we deliberately wanted a spread ranging from schools whose
endowments are not so different from ours, such as Carnegie-Mellon, to schools
where clearly they had been in the research business a long time and where
they have large endowments) and what was validated by further study within a
larger pool, is that we are the only one of the private research
college/universities that charges on a "per-credit-hour" basis.
Other findings were that time to degree completion was longer. In the end,
given the results of the study, we had to decide what our policy would be
that would accomplish making things as fair as possible to our students,
would put us in a mode that was like other research universities, and would
guarantee our students stipend levels that made sense. President Jackson, returning to
the minimum stipend issue, asked the faculty if they were aware of the
situation rolling across the country with respect to graduate assistants,
(and in one instance, undergraduate assistants) where students are organizing
and unionizing. The National Labor Relations Board has said they can do it.
In each instance a big issue has been a livable stipend and in some cases how
much they were asked to work. No institution necessarily guarantees all
graduate students financial aid, but if they get that aid, they will get it
for a specified period, and overall the university is going to set standards
and policies about what kinds of stipends we should give out. Overall policy and guidelines,
with the exception of students in the special cohort programs, ("cohort
programs" meaning we have special classes and categories of students, a
majority of which are in the Lally School of Management, and a couple in the
School of Architecture) is that full time graduate academic tuition will be
set at the same level as the undergraduate level. The entire time a student
is in residence, that student will pay tuition. There will be no categories
of resident students, who will not pay tuition. The definition of full time
will be a student who is registered for between 9 and 15 credit hours in each
semester (i.e., fall and spring semester.) The 9 credit hours per semester
refer to a TA, because that person has teaching responsibilities. Otherwise,
the full time student will be taking 12 credit hours per semester. Only
full-time students will be eligible for financial support in the form of a
tuition waiver, stipend, research assistantship or teaching assistantship or
both. All graduate students who receive stipends from the institute, or
contracts and grants or other sources, have to be paid the minimum stipend. There needs to be a timeline
for people finishing their PhD, a tighter timeline for those who are working
on Masters degrees, and for those who come in with Masters degrees in the
field of study for which they are doing research. If they are coming in for
PhD it's seven years, if they are coming in to do a Masters it's two and a
half years, and if they're coming in with a Masters doing a PhD in field of
study it's five years. For summer courses, or courses
less than 15 credit hours, there will be a per-credit-hour rate of $1100, and
this policy will become effective on Monday, March 11. Any new contracts and
grants proposals and annual renewals will have to incorporate the new tuition
policy. That means the budget, the cost-to-contract for student support, will
include the full tuition, less the institutional tuition cost-share. It must
include the minimum, calendar year stipend and overhead. Effective August 2003 the
concept of "degree completion" will cease to exist. However, coming
this fall (2002) students who are currently enrolled (already enrolled for
degree completion) will be able to enroll this way in the fall. For a period
of one year, students will be allowed to continue under the existing
"degree completion" guidelines. (That is, a student will pay $50.00
per semester - the student, not the department.) After that year, this
category goes away, and it goes away for everybody else who is not in it. A fixed number of teaching
assistantships and/or institutionally supported research assistantships (ones
that we take out of the E&G budget) will be applied to each school, in
order to affect a very high quality student. In selection of these students,
strong consideration should be should be given to their research potential.
For each of these institutionally provided assistantships, Some additional conditions are: (1) A graduate Teaching
Assistant is expected to work under faculty supervision, and no TA will be a
primary instructor for a course that they teach. The TA will work a maximum
of 20 hours per week in course support. (2) TA positions are not
assigned to individual faculty, but rather to support the teaching function
in the assigned course of work. Part of the TA's responsibility, however, is
to get to know faculty and identify a proper thesis advisor. (3) The TA must be registered
for at least 9 credits per semester. (4) A student will be supported
on a TA, or an institutionally supported RA, for a maximum of 2 years for a
PhD student, and 1 year for a Masters student, except in special cases. After
this period, it is expected that the student's thesis advisor will support
that student, unless they have some other means of support. But we will
encourage faculty to support them. When a PhD student who has been
a TA, moves into research with a supervisor, he has a research contract with
full indirect cost recovery. The institute will provide a 50/50 cost share,
on tuition and stipend, for that transition year. It is the academic Dean's
responsibility, in consultation with the Provost, to insure that all the
students who return, who currently occupy TAs or institutionally supported
RAs, will be supported for the next academic year. Any exceptions to this
have to be approved by the Provost on a case-by-case basis. In addition, Effective immediately upon
implementation of this policy, the tuition cost-share for all competitive,
externally funded research proposals, that carry full indirect cost base,
will be 35% of the required tuition for each graduate research student
included in the proposal. All proposals, single or multiple investigators,
will have a 35% cost share. The principal focus for the Part-time students in the core,
or general studies programs at Any part-time student, who has
been enrolled on the The transition plan for
self-pay students is that we would like them to register as full-time
students, and take the minimum of 12 credit hours per semester. If they
don't, they can pay the part-time tuition. But if they register for full-time
they can mitigate the impact of the changes in tuition. If they register
full-time, and are currently pursuing a Master's degree, they will pay $750
per credit hour, for a year, at which time they come under the (inaudible)
guidelines. PhD students will pay $750 a credit hour for two years. Finally, we now have
Registration-in-Absentia. These are students who are pursuing a degree, have
completed their course work, are physically located off the campus, and
therefore are not using institution resources. These students can register in
absentia for a year, and they will pay $500 per semester. A final rundown of the numbers:
President Jackson addressed the
"centralization of authority" and "view of the faculty"
issues. The President remarked that she is always stunned when she hears that
someone has said that she has criticized the faculty. She said she "has
never criticized any individual faculty ever, and if you hear that, somebody
is lying." "What you might hear me criticize are policies that make
no sense, or policies that are out of line with where other research
universities are, or policies that don't treat students fairly and policies
that need to change. On the basis of what came out of the study, as well as
some data that was assembled by both the folks who did the study and our own
institutional research organizations, there are some practices that don't
look good and are being affected by these policy changes. So if there is any
criticism, it is of those factors, but I think that part of the reason things
have evolved they way they have, is not because anybody is a 'bad' guy, the
faculty is the academic part of the institute. If you all really thought,
that I thought you were horrid - 'bad guys' - why should I want to be the President?
What I think has happened, is that over time there have either been no
policies, or if they have existed they've been somewhat ad hoc and/or not
adhered to. I think that plays into this whole issue of apparent
'centralization of authority' because if there haven't been any policies
before, the mere imposition of any feels very constraining. But in point of
fact, what we are putting into place, and what we purport to do, is to create
an overall infrastructure that puts us in line with other institutions that
we benchmarked. No institution operates without some rules in place and
faculty has a lot of independence, and will continue to do so. But it is the
goal of the university, and it's prerogative to say, what is it going to cost
to attend the institution and what general rules will pertain with respect to
how students are dealt with and how we administer our contracts and
grants." "I realize that some
people have referred to me as a 'micro-manager.' However, how many of you
have ever seen me come into your classrooms, and tell you what to teach? How
many have ever seen me come into your laboratories and tell you what to
research? How many have ever had me call you into my office and tell you how
you should spend your day? But it is the prerogative of the President and the
Board, to say how this institution will be financed; how, at large, it will
deal with its students, and how it's going to administer its contracts and
grants." "We recognize that there
are idiosyncrasies with various programs, and individual cases, and we will
deal with those as they come along, but we don't write policy that layout the
overall approach and guidelines for a thousand special cases. Some people
even felt that doing Performance Planning, coming out of the Rensselaer Plan,
was making us too corporate - 'the very idea that we would try to layout
priorities.' But all priority setting is, is asking you what is it that you
think is most important to move First, the very fact that we
have what many people consider to be one of the best strategic plans in
American higher education, and the fact that we are starting down the path
with the kind of performance planning that has garnered us the support of
the.. (inaudible)… that's impressive, and it's unrestricted they're not
saying you must use this for this and you must use it for that. Secondly, you know I'm
committed to renewing and enlarging the faculty over some period of years, by
the time we get through the next fiscal year, and over about a two to three
year period, we will have hired 65 to 70 faculty. That will create at least
20 new positions. We are going to totally
transform the south campus, with the Center for Biotechnology and
Interdisciplinary Studies and the Experimental Media and Performing Arts
Center among other things. But we're also putting $17 million dollars, this
year and next year into renovation, renewal and deferred maintenance. Up
until this fiscal year, on a per-year basis, approximately $800,000 was spent
on deferred maintenance. The Board has committed to spend $17 million this year
and $17 million next year. This does not include other initiatives that have
to do with start-up support for new faculty, and that's leaving aside
constellation hires. "Another thing that other people
have said is 'the only thing that is important [to the President] is IT and
Biotech.' If we have six constellations, with three faculty each and you
square that against 65 faculty…you can do the math. Change is hard, and
believe it or not it's hard for me too, I think we all have to have more good
will with each other, and not always perceive the worst. I do not have a
conspiracy against any faculty member, nor the faculty as a whole. I wouldn't
be out here trying to get as much money as I can to support our initiatives,
to provide support for start ups, to renovate space, try to have our living
conditions for our students as good as they can be, if I didn't believe in
the institution and the people in it. You have to tell me where I have failed
you, because I don't believe I have. Have I been 'perfect,' absolutely not. But you tell me, are you better off today, than you
were five years ago when the budget was running in the red? Ten years ago,
eight years ago when people were being laid off? You tell me? I'm trying to
bootstrap on a very narrow research base,…(inaudible)…and
to have a stronger student body, a stronger presence in the world and a
stronger financial (inaudible). If we all keep facing forward, we're going to
get there, and in a few years, we're going to be a lot better off. Now let me
hear from you…" Don Steiner, MANE: If you have
an existing contract, and you want to bring in a new student in the fall.
What kind of an RA offer can we make? Or are all new students going to be
brought in as TAs? President Jackson: There will
be a mixture of RAs and TAs, but how that gets assigned on a departmental
basis, is a function of the Dean. If it's "your" money, an RA offer
made on an existing contract will be under the old terms of the contract. However,
it is advised you pay them a full stipend. Steiner: The near term impact
of this transition appears that it is going to require expenditures that were
not planned on a year ago, and since the pot of money is fixed, it seems to
mean that some prioritization is going to take place. So how will this adjust
the plans we have over the next year or two to accommodate additional
expenditures for the students? President Jackson: As a metric,
let's say one faculty member that you might hire, where you would pay him
$100,000 a year, and benefits on top of that, probably equals 10 graduate
student stipends, the university is foregoing the tuition…the Deans are going
to work out what the trade offs are, that's not something I can comment on.
We are not interested in laying people off, let me put that to you, and
therefore there is an issue of thinking about what trade offs there are.
People have gone around saying things like "there will be a freeze on
hiring" - that's a lie. Or, "we should fire all
the clinical faculty." Well, I'm not going to let you do that.
But we need to think about what would be "new" initiatives. John Brunski, Biomed: When you talk about metrics, and benchmarking,
something that jumps out from the US News & World Report, is our
student-to-faculty ratio, is only comparable to the State schools. All the
private schools are much lower. It's a step in the right direction to hire
faculty, but even if you put 60 new faculty in Engineering tomorrow, our
ratio would still be way off from the schools we would like to be compared
to. President Jackson: All we can
do is what we can do, which is to try to grow the faculty as fast as we can,
within those constraints. The full realization of the Rensselaer Plan is to
improve the student/faculty ratio, but right now we're in bootstrap mode. I
would like tomorrow for the student/faculty ratio to change. Some people
might say well, shrink the number of undergrads, but some of you wouldn't be
here if that happens. This is why we're changing the whole underpinning of
graduate tuition, and having a capital campaign. Karen LeFevre,
LLC, President Jackson: There are
foundations that support people in the Humanities; people in the Social
Sciences do get support from the National Science Foundation and others. No
one is talking about decreasing the number of TA's that you have, if anything
you will be better off. We are grossing up the number of TA students. LeFevre: However, I still don't understand, what would happen
after this two-year period? President Jackson: Students who
are currently TAs or institutionally supported RAs who have been promised, will get support. The policy doesn't say who has
been promised support, the policy does say that students who are on TAs will
get supported next year, and any deviation from that is done on a
case-by-case basis with the Provost's approval. If a student shouldn't be
supported, who has been supported, you will have to work that out yourself,
as I am telling students that the default is, that they should continue to be
supported, unless there is some special reason why they should not. The
default position is, if a TA is on support today,
they will be on it for one more year. Connor: I wanted to follow-up
on the student/faculty ratio comment. We have a large number of
undergraduates to educate and we need good TAs to do that. We have a
tradition of bringing in graduate students and making sure that they will be
adequate. Why is it then, given this context, that we have this extreme
situation of having very large undergraduate loads? We have taken the most
rigid interpretation of graduate tuition I have seen in any school. As
example, at President Jackson: Ken, reality
has to set in. Michael Jensen, Mechanical
Engineering: Regarding once more the student-to-faculty ratio, when we look
at some of these aspirant institutions, they have very large post-doc
populations, as well as professional staff, we can have this change of policy
that can go tomorrow, we can have a transition, but then after the two years,
the assumption is that there has been a significant step-change in proposal
writing and winning of grants. When I talk to my colleagues, everybody is
stressed already, particularly because of the very high student load. You are
now saying that in two years, we will have a qualitative and quantitative
increase in grant funding to assure our aid for all of our students. The
comments are made that our TA to RA ratio is way out of whack, and that is
going to be changed within two years… President Jackson: We are still
supporting the same number of TAs. We have 400 funded TA positions and over
500 de facto TAs. So somehow you are teaching today with these 500 plus de
facto TAs, and we're saying we're going to fully fund them on a go-forward
basis, (now how that gets proportioned, in terms of whether one body goes
through the five years on a TA, or we say a body is on a TA two-and-a-half
years, and then something else happens) in the end you have 500 plus supported
TA positions, and that is the same number you have today and those students
are going to be fully supported. So in terms of how your teaching load gets
handled, I fail to see how in a relative sense things are worse off, based on
what we've said. Jensen: I didn't say we'd be
worse off, I said it would be the same. But on top of that the expectation is
that the grant and proposals production will increase significantly, and that
takes time. President Jackson: That's
correct. We've been doing faculty loading, and looking at how faculty spend their time and have had some interesting
results. Some of which seems to fly in the face of what you are saying. Jensen: Are you going to share
those data with us? President Jackson: Well, you
will have to talk to the Provost. A question in regard to degree
completion at other universities was raised from a write-in to the Executive
Committee: "Would it not be fair to point out that the ivy leagues, and Stanford do allow degree completion after a
number of years after full tuition is paid?" President Jackson: The schools
that have some kind of degree completion mode, do
not charge $50. … (inaudible)… MIT does not have a
degree completion mode. Tom Apple added a comment on a
case he was aware of regarding Steve Cramer, CHME: According
to the new rules, my group of 9 PhD students and 2 post-docs will have to go
down to roughly 5 or 6 PhD students, if I keep my money at the same level and
I'm already pretty much tapped out at NIH and several other agencies. So this
new policy will not really increase my tuition that I give over to the
university, it will cause me to decrease the size of my research group. President Jackson: The
university has been heavily subsidizing those PhD students you have, and I'm
saying to you, that the university cannot afford to continue to do that. The
real solution is that your colleagues have to have research contracts. The
statistics are that there are about 100 faculty that
have over $100,000 a year (funding) out of the 360 tenured/tenure track
faculty. If the system were fully operative, then there would be the
possibility to do more cost-share, etc., and the hope is we can turn this
around. Other institutions subsidize, but they subsidize from endowment, not
from what other people pay. Gary Adams, Physics: You made a
strong point about the initial appointments to be full- time appointments.
Does this mean 12-months appointments? Is the
responsibility of supporting students during the first summer, still falling
on the research assistantship? President Jackson: The
appointments are for the academic year. If you still want that student to
work for you, yes, you have to put him on that grant. Mark Rea, LRC: How would one
approach a discussion (or an appeal to the rules) with the Provost or the
Administration, if it could be demonstrated that students are making money
and high prestige through the programs that are put on? President Jackson: We are
looking at institutional policies overall. Part of the problem of where we
are is that people have been optimizing individually and locally, and we are
saying that there will be an overall university policy that will govern everybody.
And we are not eager to have individual optimizations. (…inaudible…) Howard Littman, CHME: I'm not
sure I understand "when" TA support begins. In many departments
it's desirable for students to start with an RA, and then use (at least in
our department) the TA as a fallback to make this transition. However, most
of the people in our department don't want to use TAs, but will they be able
to get them somewhere down the line? President Jackson: I think
that's still under discussion, because you just brought it up! Prabhat Hajela read a note from the
emails: How does the new tuition affect benefits? There are faculty that take two graduate courses per semester, these
courses are taxed and therefore there is a tax burden with the increase in
tuition. How is this going to be addressed? President Jackson: …(inaudible)… no, nothing at this point…our focus has been
on full-time students, we are not taking away any benefits …(inaudible)…
We're working on a transition for that. Henry Scarton, MANE: There is
an analogy between UTC and President Jackson: If they
become a doctoral student, they have to register full-time. Scarton: But they are full-time
employees at General Electric Large Steam Turbine Generator, so they can't do
that… President Jackson: Their focus
will be at (from the audience) "No
part-time here?" President Jackson: There is
part-time here, but we're saying if you want to go to a degree program, then
you register for that. The honest answer to this question is "we're
still looking at it." Bruce Nauman, CHME: A lot of
our graduate/doctoral students are foreign. There is an I20 form that appears
to obligate us for a period of 3 to at least 5 years. Do you have any
comments on that? President Jackson: I think you
have to work that out within your department in terms of how you figure out
how you can support the student, the university, provide (inaudible)
department and the faculty within the department. Nauman: But the second part to
that is not the department, the second story to that is the University… …(inaudible)… We appear to obligate ourselves to this
particular student for a year, this is a federal
government form. President Jackson: Well, then
will have to look into that. Amir Hirsa, Mechanical Engineering
- Letters for new students have now been delayed for about two weeks compared
to last year's calendar and I'm afraid we're going to lose out on very top
recruits if we don't resolve this issue and do it fast. Letters and I20 forms
are on hold; I'm trying to get a student that has been hand picked from… President Jackson: Well the
policy becomes effective on Monday. Michael Jensen: But we don't
know how many extra, if we have to cover existing students with TA's or if we
can bring in new ones? Provost Peterson: We have
distributed a list of every graduate student who is enrolled in the fall or
the spring to the Deans. The Deans are going through the lists a student at a
time. We are trying to get that resolved as fast as we can so you can get those
letters out. They have had them for a week or so. One of the schools is done,
another is close to done, and they are going through to figure out exactly
what the obligation is to existing students so they have these numbers. Curt Breneman,
Chemistry: In discussion with other faculty members it has come up that the
50/50 cost share that occurs during that first transitional year…for TAs
going on RAs…so when I put a new student on my contract whose coming off of a
TA, I'll get a 50% cost-share on the stipend and on the tuition for that
contract. But the contract operates in terms of whole numbers. In other
words, there are two slots, or three slots, but we have that extra half-piece
and most of the time we can't bank that for the next year, for example. Practically,
what is the expectation there, since we really can't split these things up? Provost Peterson: Curt, I think
you are picking a very special case where you have a single contract with
incremental students, and just one contract. These are some of the things
we're going to have to figure out. You could always turn down the
institution's offer to support half a student…that's an option! But, I do
want to make clear that in that transition year there is no obligation that
the student will work as a TA; that's the institution supporting the student
half-time to work with you on the research. Ellen Esrock,
LL&C: I'm trying to understand…(inaudible)…faculty
who are teaching literature, history or whatever they are teaching, to teach
writing courses? We don't understand how you are thinking of the priority. Provost Peterson: Ellen, I
think what is in question here is the definition of "teach." We
have students in supervisory roles in the writing courses, and they are
overseen by a faculty member. When the President talks about
"teaching," what we're saying is we're not going to have graduate
students that walk into a course, they are handed a textbook and a roll sheet
and they are told, "go to it." There will be faculty supervision
and oversight of students in these roles and positions. Cheng Hsu, DSES: To clarify
another point, unless I know that I can support 100 students two years from
now, I'm not going to dare to make the commitment to 100 students. President Jackson: That is
correct and if you look at the number of PhD, and even the number of masters,
relative to the amount of research support that we have, it is way out of
line. I'm not looking to kill our graduate program, but I'm saying that we
have to have a graduate program that is consistent with our abilities to
support that graduate program. And if it has to go down before it goes back
up, then that's what we have to do. Joe Ecker,
Math: In the Math Department we have 20 RAs. Let's say, roughly, to make it
easy, we have 40 TAs. That means that two years from now we have 20 TAs
looking for 20 RAs the year after that, we have another 20 TAs looking for 20
different RAs, and possibly, if students go for five years, after that we've
got another 20 students looking for 20 new. So we would need in a steady
state, 50 or 60 RAs for 21 faculty. Now MIT, (which
has a nice Mathematics and Applied Mathematics Department) they have roughly
one RA per faculty member; we have roughly one RA or fellowship, per faculty
member. I don't see that two or three years from now we are going to be able
to ramp up 20 RAs into 50 or 60 RAs. That's a serious problem. President Jackson: The serious
problem is that it is over inflated relative to what the institution has been
supporting, relative to what faculty research can… (inaudible).
Faculty get up and tell me all the time about how
we're expecting that you're going to support 50 RAs down the line. Well, if
you can't, you can't. But the answer is not that I'm going to take
undergraduate tuition and pay for it. So you have to understand, and that's
why I'm saying that if we have to go down, and then go back up in a way that
is consistent with how we grow our research, and other resources, then that
is what we are going to have to do. Cheng Hsu: I truly believe that
your objective is a good one, which will work. But obviously there are still
major questions. One is the role of the professional masters
degree in general. It is a national trend toward extending general education
from four years, into masters and (inaudible) transition from here to there
So far it seems to me an important issue, I just don't know to what extent
the faculty, such as engineers (inaudible) up to this point, should be
involved. I don't know to what extent the faculty has to be involved. President Jackson: I think the
faculty have been and are involved. Certainly at the level, from my
understanding from Tom [Apple] and Bud [Peterson], in terms of discussions
with Department Chairs and Deans about how to make a move toward this new
result. All that has been done here is to lay these policies out in the
large, and clearly the implementation details will depend upon what happens
within the departments. Because in the end if you look at all that I've said
to you is that graduate full-time tuition will equal undergraduate tuition.
Secondly, if we tell students we are going to give them an assistantship,
they're not going to get some minimalist stipend they will get full support.
And third that we have a broad-based transition plan in terms of how the
institutional resources are going to be used, and how the tuition is going to
be grandfathered. Then there are any number of specific implementation details that clearly
require discussion among the faculty, and between the faculty and the
administration and that will go on over the next several months. I'm not
disagreeing with you, but if the thought is that we don't promulgate the
overall broad policies until we've talked about it for another year, the
answer is "no," we are going to promulgate the new policy. Cheng Hsu: It seems there could
be a worst-case scenario with very dire consequences. Such as the cost of RAs
being a significant factor, such as (inaudible) if you offer TAs but nobody
dares to accept and we don't have new students, and the Professional Masters
Degree… President Jackson: I agree that
would be a worst-case scenario! Regarding the Professional Masters Degree,
over time the incentive will be to move it to President of the Faculty
Senate, Linnda Caporael thanked President Jackson and the meeting adjourned
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