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Mick Doherty <doherm>
Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:03:51 -0400
Just FYI, as of 2:00 PM Friday, two hours past the original deadline
(I got hung up in line at the Financial Aid Office -- wotta shock!)
-- I have received Bestiary lists from those listed below. If
your eddress is not on the list, you should still post; send it
DIRECTLY TO THE LIST. I will not forward any further posts unless
they were obviously caucht in a queue somewhere for hours ...
And again, try to make your list without reading the ones I will
forward in the next post
18 posts (Alison, not sure why you posted twice?)
1 abellp@rpi.edu Thu Oct 24 16:24 50/1343 "Gibson Beastiary"
2 bartla@rpi.edu Thu Oct 24 16:42 50/1908 "Gibson Bestiality/Bes"
3 costam Thu Oct 24 21:00 143/5347
4 gugela@rpi.edu Thu Oct 24 21:13 78/1912 "List"
5 andret Thu Oct 24 23:03 36/1104
6 dubnol@rpi.edu Thu Oct 24 23:23 31/1128 "bestiary"
7 dulsi@identical.stu. Thu Oct 24 23:39 33/1349 "Bestiary of the Matri"
8 flynnk@rpi.edu Thu Oct 24 23:46 44/1413 "Beastiary"
9 webbj Fri Oct 25 00:02 35/1437 "beastiary"
> 10 gugela@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 00:05 40/1176 "Gibson character list"
11 gentrj Fri Oct 25 00:21 132/7970 "Beastiary"
12 cohend3 Fri Oct 25 00:36 39/1546 "Re: Gibson Trilogy"
13 woodws@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 09:05 33/1001 "characters"
14 takats2@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 10:42 48/1695 "Beastiaries"
15 mishkm Fri Oct 25 11:28 39/1603 "bestiary"
16 gormas@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 11:49 38/1014 "beastiary"
17 mollew@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 11:49 33/1489 "Gibson Trilogy Bestia"
18 boothj Fri Oct 25 11:55 32/1046 "bestiary"
19 tejanb@rpi.edu Fri Oct 25 12:25 61/1914 "Bestiary, Gibson
work"
Bestiary II (LONG!)
Mick Doherty <doherm>
Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:10:50 -0400
Paul Alexander Abell <abellp@rpi.edu>
Mick,
Here is the Beastiary as I see it:
New AI (Wintermute/Neromancer join) ---- "Gods" (most
advanced life)
Loas (AI remnants from W/N join) --- "lesser gods" (supreme
beings)
Total Human Conversion (Virek) --- "spirits and elementals"
Ghosts (Colin) --- "faeries and nymphs"
Constructs (Dixie) --- "magical heroes"
Advanced Computers (Continuity) --- "mortal Man"
Drones (Slamhound, ultralight) --- "animals"
Remotes (Judge robot) --- "insects and plants"
Human Implants (Molly's enhancements) --- "microbes"
Biosoft --- "viruses"
I think that is it! Good luck with all of this1
-- Paul
Tony Bartling <bartla@rpi.edu>
Wintermute/Neuromancer Merger -- this is the highest, since they merged with
the matrix, the most complex representation
of technology that Gibson presents.
3Jane in the Aleph -- She's got the intelligence of a human, but
Bobby she isn't, really.
Angie
Various AI's -- They've got a large degree of intelligence
and personal freedom, but again, they are
fully contained in computers.
Dixie Flatline Construct -- I rate these here, because without added
Finn stuff (memory, a deck, etc.), they have no
capacity to remember their recent actions or
thoughts.
Peter Riviera -- He was quite the cyborg, with his hologram
machine wired directly into his brainstem.
Molly Millions/Sally Shears -- She was 'borged to the max, too, although
her add-ons weren't quite as visually
spectacular as Riviera's.
The Aleph -- It was capable of forming a symbiotic bond
with anyone who joined it, but without that
bond, it was just a piece of metal.
Wintermute's Peripherals -- They seemed to act with their own volition,
so they _were_ rather complex, but they needed
Wintermute for complex actions.
I think that's it.
--Tony
Matt Costa
Bestiary assignment
Sci/Fi VR Fall 1996
email: mcosta@unix.cie.rpi.edu
First, I apologize in advance if I've missed any obvious character
during my descriptions, but you have my notebook (I'll try my
best to do this from my head).
Well, let's begin with a definition of what "bestiary"
means:
/afs/rpi.edu/home/22/costam (23) webster bestiary
bes-ti-ary \'bes(h)-che^--,er-e^-, 'be^-s(h)-\ n, pl -ar-ies
[ML bestiarium, fr. L, neut. of bestiarius of beasts, fr. bestia]
(1840)
1: a medieval allegorical or moralizing work on the appearance and
habits of real or imaginary animals
2: a collection of descriptions of real or imaginary animals
I began this project by imagining that cyberspace is the sea, and everything else is either land or air. Certain creatures that live in the sea can also live on land (amphibians), while other sea creatures can only exist in the sea. Some of these sea creatures require air periodically (dolphins, whales) but spend the majority of their time in the ocean.
Thus, I will rank all characters based on combined intelligence and overall influence. When I talk about influence, I mean influence in their respective environment, as well as outside of it (e.g., a killer whale has a good deal of influence in the ocean, but also has a profound influence on seals unlucky enough to be sunbathing on the shore).
In the text to follow, I will name the major characters of each
of the books, and compare them to an animal (with an explanation
of my choice).
ENDER'S GAME
Ender (Grizzly Bear) - Like the Grizzly Bear, Ender goes
into cyberspace to catch his "fish" (the buggers).
Buggers (bees) - This comparison was made in the book (they live
in colonies and have a queen leader).
Other humans (wolves) - The only way they can gain power over
Ender is to unite. Some use their cunning to make Ender do
things he doesn't want to do (Graff).
NEUROMANCER
Wintermute (humpback whale) - He is a powerful yet
peaceful part of the matrix.
Neuromancer (Great White Shark) - He prowls the matrix for prey
(and finds it with Jackie).
Dix (Sea Lion) - Capable of extreme ferocity, he can also be trained
to do what you want.
The Finn, before novel's end (vulture) - He lived off of the
software people gave him.
The Finn, after novel's end (ocean) - He became the matrix!
(BTW: I know the ocean doesn't classify as an animal, but
that's what he is).
Riviera (chameleon) - He can alter your perception of him.
Case (dolphin) - He spends most of his life in the ocean, but
must surface for air (the real world) sometime.
Julius Deane, Molly, Ratz, Armitage (genetically altered lab
rats) - All four characters were altered to either prolong
their life (Armitage and Deane) or to enhance themselves
(Molly and Ratz).
COUNT ZERO
Wintermute - see previous description.
Virek (snapper turtle) - Since he lives in a swamp (his life
support tank), he doesn't have much interaction with things
outside of it. However, if you're in that swamp with him
he'd probably overpower you.
Angie (eagle) - Although she nests on land, she can take to both
the air and sea for food.
Wig, Bobby, Jackie, other console jockies, Virek's assistant
(dolphin) - same explanation as Case above.
Turner and military commandos (wolves) - They are cunning and
tough.
MONA LISA OVERDRIVE
Bobby (killer whale -> lobster) - He had profound influence over the
matrix (once Gentry keyed him in) as well as his surroundings
(like when he dropped the fridge on the bad guys at the end).
However, when he becomes part of the matrix, he is as far removed
from real life (land) as he could be.
3Jane (Great White) - She is a predator in her environment.
The Finn (ocean, as before)
Angie (dolphin initially, but a lobster at the end) -
Initially she lived in the matrix quite a bit, but was always
a land creature. At the end, she became part of the matrix,
never again able to reach land again.
Colin (sea lion, see Dix's explanation)
Sally and Mona (altered lab rats) - Biologically enhanced.
Gentry (dolphin) - Jacked in quite a bit, but needs the real
world every now and then to survive.
All other humans (zebra) - Most of the other characters (as far
as I could remember) were on the run at some point, or being
hunted.
SNOW CRASH
Hiro, Gargoyles, Da5id (dolphins) - As explained earlier.
Raven, Rat Things, Rife, Uncle Enzo (lion) - They are
land creatures (ie, real world) of enormous power.
Y.T. (rabbit) - She is always delivering things for Enzo;
constantly on the move.
Y.T.'s mom (colonial bee) - She works hard to please her
master (Feds, equivalent to the queen bee).
Gibsonian AI Bestiary
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NOTE: the following are ranked in terms of artificial intelligence
not overall intelligence. That is Molly may indeed be more intelligent
than Rudy's cyberdogs but she is more natural intelligence than
artificial intelligence.
Wintermute/Neuromancer combined entity
The Other (intelligent entity in space)
Wintermute
Neuromancer
Continuity
Loas
Colin
3jane/Bobby/Angie/Finn in the aleph
The Finn construct in Mona Lisa Overdrive
Josef Virek's construct
The Dixie Flatline construct
The intelligent attack jumpjet in Count Zero
Rudy's cyberdogs
Molly
Laura Dubnoff <dubnol@rpi.edu>
Mick,
I wasn't that clear on Prof. Porush's assignment I realized when
I sat down to do the list, but here is what I have. I have put
an example of each type of mechanized beast.
Super God-like intelligence: Neuromancer/Wintermute entity
Neuromancer/Wintermute leftover: legba
AI: Continuity
AI construct: Colin
Human Construct: Finn (in Mona Lisa Overdrive)
Human/computer terminal: Angela Mitchell
Artificially sustained person: Josef Virek
Artificially improved person: Molly
Human: Kumiko
Laura Dubnoff
Dennis Payne <dulsi@identical.stu.rpi.edu>
Bestiary of the Matrix
by Dennis Payne <payned@rpi.edu>
Itterators
Those programs that execute instructions with any understanding
beyond the current command. They have no learning capabilities.
Learners
Those cappable of understanding a situation and learning good
and bad solutions. Constructs such as Dixie, the Finn and Colin
fall in here.
Thinkers
Not only can these learn from current situations they are creative.
True AIs are here including Wintermute/Neuromancer.
[Note: That is all that I believe there are. Now this leads to
some confusion as to what Winter/Neuromancer were before the change.
Also the loas are hard to place. I think that's more likely because
we don't know enough about them.]
Kenneth W. Flynn <flynnk@rpi.edu>
>From most sentient to least:
Post Mona-Lisa Overdrive Bobby, Angie
Wintermute-Neuromancer Combo
Wintermute, Neuromancer
Colin
Loahs, Boxmaker
Constructs (Flatline, Finn)
Vehicle computers (Ahmed, Turner's plane, etc.)
Ice, Ice-breakers
Armed Remotes
Claws (Medical tools)
Permanent Implants/Human Enhancements
Microsofts
Decks
I can't think of any more. Thanks,
Kenn
This was supposed to be a list of the types of AIs in the trilogy,
am i right? I'm not sure exactly what this was supposed to be
or how in-depth...
Wintermute/Neuromancer - the highest level of AI we see.
AI citizens (Wintermute pre-merge) - I think that Wintermute
alone may have been the next highest form.
Voodoo Gods (Brigitte) - these seemed to be pretty intellegent entities
3Jane Ghost - Higher than Dixie or FInn ghosts because of 3Jane's
higher in life intellegence (maybe some other factors too).
MaasBiotech Personal Assistant(Colin) - was able to compete with 3jane
quite well.
Most Ghosts (Dixie Flatline, Finn) - still can't write poetry (but neither
can I ;).
AI Ices- able to modify defensees (wasn't black ice like this?)
Robots - little or no AI. (Judge, Corpsegrinder, etc)
>> Continuity- should be above Colin below or equal to 3Jane
i think.
did i forget anyone?
-jon webb-
Alison Elaine Gugel <gugela@rpi.edu>
10-25-96
As requested, here are a few of the categories that I broke Gibson's
characters into and one character for each category:
AI Gods: Wintermute
Loas: Pappa Legba (p. 255 Mona Lisa Overdrive)
AI Ghosts: Colin
Constructs: Dixie Flatline
Entities within the matrix sometimes seen as holograms: Virek
Biotechnology implants: Angie
Biotechnology manipulation: T-A
Cowboys using the cyberdeck: Jammer
Characters with plastic surgery: Armitage
Average characters: Marly
Robots: the Corpsegrinder
Jeff Gentry
SFVR
"Gibsonian Beastiary"
Okay, well I suppose this is it. I decided to put my categories
in order of "godlike powers on the matrix" (decreasing)
until the last few, where that just wouldn't make sense. I'm sure
that you, gentle reader, will see what I'm talking about.
J
1. "WinterMancer" (my own words) ... this is the joining
of the two AI's, wintermute and neuromancer. This entity was released
into the matrix, and would have/had godlike powers. It was even
able to detect "similar" entities out near Alpha Centuari
- and seemed to have a desire to communicate with these beings.
It is my belief that this union was short lived, and spawned the
"loas" (see below).
2. The Loas. The Loas, in my opinion, were created by the splintering
elements of "wintermancer." For whatever reason, they
took their "pantheon" of gods and chose to represent
themselves as voodoo deities. They then roamed free around the
matrix, making deals and mucking around with the humans who did
business there. It was this ability which makes them seem as powerful
as the original, but I have a feeling that each one individually
was not as powerful as wintermancer, since each loa is supposedly
a part of the latter.
3. Biosoft AIs. These AIs were created using the biosoft technology
given to Mitchell by either the loas or wintermancer. There is
little to no evidence to say that they were more powerful then
the older AIs (wintermute and neuromancer) except that 1) they
are newer, and 2) biosoft was supposedly a lot more powerful then
earlier tech. On the other hand, it was noted on at least one
occassion that these newer AIs wer e a bit more naive, not having
as much experience as the older ones. Continuity would be an example
of one of these AIs.
4. "Old" AIs. The AIs that we see at the beginning of
the trilogy makes up this fourth class of machines. They demonstrated
great power in Neuromancer, when the two "main character"
machines (wintermute and neuromancer) singlehandedly masterminded
the whole plot to join up and release themselves on to the matrix.
Together, they formed the entity that I placed in entry #1, having
almost total godlike powers on the matrix. But even separately,
each of the two machines demonstrated the capacity to control
just about anything it wanted on the matrix itself.
5. "Jackless decker". This class of beings is basically
represented by just one person - Angie Mitchell. Due to the veves
drawn in her mind by her father (on request by another entity,
presumably #1), Angie had the ability to connect to the matrix
(and be connected with by the loas) without having to "jack
in" like the deckers. I don't think that she had total control
over what happened, however - it seemed as if her matrix explorations
were pretty much limited to dreams, although it still appeared
as if those dreams had greater potentital then any decker had
- and on top of that was her relationship with the loas. In my
estimation, Angie was the most powerful human entity on the matrix
- and probably did not even realize it.
6. "Vat And Net Construct". Apparently, I just gave
a very fancy name to Josef Virek. Virek claimed to have existed
in a vat, however, we always seem him in some sort of matrix hologram.
It was my belief when reading the novel that he did not really
in fact live in a vat as he said, but rather was some sort of
construct - somewhere in between a true AI and the ROM constructs.
Virek sought the powers that the loas had, thinking that it would
make him immortal, but it was shown that he himself had pretty
far reaching power on the matrix. Eventually, he killed the wrong
person in the matrix and ended up being killed in revenge by one
of the loas (baron samedi).
7. Deckers. Your average joe "console cowboy" ... jack
in to the trix w/ a plug in your cortex, and all that jazz. This
class is made up of a myriad of characters in the books: Case,
Bobby, Jammer, Jaylene Slide, Ramirez, Gentry, etc etc. All of
them had the ability to manipulate things in the matrix using
their wits, minds, imaginations, and manual dexterity (for the
keyboard). While not as powerful as the AI "deities",
nor virek or Angie - they did seem to have more ability then the
next category down, that of the ROM construct, due to their ability
to "think on the fly" rather then being hardwired.
8. ROM Contructs. This category basically consists of ROM chips
which contain the encoded personalities of various people. In
the books we see several of these, notably Dixie Flatline and
the Finn. They seem to think, like an AI, but rather are incapable
of "original thought" on their own, since everything
that is possible for them is hardwired into the ROM. Also, when
power is not applied, they lose their memory of what has happened,
due to the same reasons. It is for these reasons that I do not
place them above the humans.
Here is where I start moving away from the matrix topic ....
9. Biosoft "near" AI. I am referring to the "ghosts"
... seen in MLO as Colin the tour guide. Technically he did make
his way onto the matrix, but I do not think that is a very average
thing for these devices to do, so I put them on the non-matrix
list. However, were they to be plugged into the matrix w/ regularity,
I do feel that they would rank up just ahead of Angie Mitchell.
These devices seem to be hovering around the level of an AI -
such that they would be "almost" to Continuities level.
They could very well be the same tech or better as continuity,
but there is not enough evidence in the books to support either
way, so I will go w/ my gut feeling and say that I feel they are
slightly lower beings. Some self awareness was shown on the part
of these guides, but it is unclear to what extent the AI can go.
To me, this is one of the most interesting "entities"
in the gibsonian universe.
10. "Chrome Augmented" humans. These are humans who
went under the knife to have various parts of their body replaced
with "chrome." Examples of this would be Molly, who
had her eyes replaced w/ a set of glasses grafted on her head
(complete w/ all sorts of imaging, sighting, etc gear) and also
had razors implanted under her fingernails. All the various simstim
stars as well as the reporters also had augmentation w/ their
eyes, for purposes of recording. Throughout the novels there was
another myriad of these sorts of characters, as this is not too
uncommon a being in any cyberpunk novel.
11. "Non Chrome Augmented" humans. These humans underwent
massive surgery, but it wasn't for natural augmentation purposes.
Generally, it seemed to be the people who got blown apart and
needed "rebuilding." Good examples of this specific
category include Turner and Armitage. This also is not all that
uncommon in cyberpunk fiction.
12. Cyberdogs. These dogs were built by Turner's brother in Count
Zero. He would create various technologies and implant them on
his dogs, making them the canine equivalent to #10 above. It was
noted that there were no longer any birds around because the dogs
were too efficient at killing them off.
13. Remote Control Robots. This final category is for the robots
built by Slick. While not intelligent at all - they were remote
controlled by humans, they still had the ability to devastate
a small corporate raiding party. Not much can really be said about
them, beyond that they sounded really cool. :)
The following is a list of AI Beastialities.
1. The AI in Alpha Centauri.
2. The WinterMute NeuroMancer Matrix entity.
3. WinterMute
4. NeuroMancer
5. Linda construct/AI at the end on Neuromancer
6. Case construct/AI at the end of Neuromancer
7. 3Jane in the Aleph
8. Colin in the Aleph
9. The Count in the Aleph
10. Angie in the Aleph
11. The Loas
12. The box Maker from the T-A memory site.
13. Virek in Cyberspace.
14. Microsofts. Mitchell's Dossier
15. The Rom-Generated Simstim construct used by Turner in Count Zero.
16. Dixie Flatline construct
17. Finn Construct
18. The black boxes that Kumiko's father had in his office.
19. The plane Turner flew.
To what extent have we not obtained Gibson's Cyberspace? We haven't
been able to trick all the senses into believing that they were
somewhere else. We haven't created an AI that is as intelligent
as the Tessier-Ashpool's Neuromancer-Wintermute AI. We haven't
the ability to allow people's consciosness to leave there body.
Stacy Woodworth <woodws@rpi.edu>
This is my list of characters in order of the intelligence of their computer parts.
wintermute/neuromancer
other AI in alpha centauri
loas
ghosts (Colin)
Bobby Newmark et.al in the aleph
constructs (Dixie and the Finn)
Joseph Virek
Angie with her biosoft chip
Anyone with a stimsim implant
the limosine than ran by itself
Slick's robots (judge and witch)
Helicopter that followed Angie
Kumiko's face
Molly's implants
Stacy Woodworth
takats2@rpi.edu (The Wanderer)
Mick:
I'm not sure exactly how to do this assignment. I know we are
supposed to break the Gibson characters into intelligence categories.
Are we supposed to explain each category? I'm doing it by telling
who's in each category.
Here's my attempt:
1. Artificial Intelligence Gods: Neuromancer and Wintermute
2. Loas: Mamman Brigette, Pappa Legba
3. Constructs: Dixie, Finn (second and third books), Collin
4. Biotechnologically manipulated beings: Angie and her cousin Coninuity
5. Technologically manipulated beings: Tessier-Ashpool, Case, Molly, Armitage,
Mona (after surgery), Turner, Billy (in third book), Finn (in first book),
Virek
6. Normal beings: Marly, Billy (in first and second book)
7. Robots: the Judge, the Corpsegrinder
--Sarah
Here is my Bestiary
(I worked on it with Bankim Tejani, that is why it appears similar)
Supreme AI Wintermte/Nueromancer
demi-AI Brigitte
construct Dixie
demi-construct Finn
Personal Evolving AI Continuity
Artificial Tour Guide Colin
demi artificial Tour Guide Prior's Limo
immortal Herr Virek
Illusionist Riviera
Biosoft Angie Mitchell
cyborg Molly
horse Angie Mitchell
flesh puppet Molly
enhanced watch dog Rudy's dogs
Guide Bot Braun
Vision Enhancement Molly's Glasses
Artificial living environment/graphical Aleph
Artificial living environment/physial vats
Robot The Judge
Mick,
Someone emailed the bestiary BEFORE noon! So, here is mine anyways,
I tried to keep what I had before.
AI God: Neuromancer, Wintermute
Loas: Legba
Upgraded Guide/Ghost: Colin
Constructs: Finn
Implants: Angie, Molly
MicroSofts: Lupus Yonderboy
Cyborgs (Cyberspace Cowboys): Case
Robots: the Judge, the Witch, the Corpsegrinder
-sGorman
helloworld@movie_worx (workgroup)
gormas@rpi.edu (email)
www.sover.net/~sgorman (www)
Gibson Trilogy Bestiary
* Supra AI (Neuromancer) => The most fully developed intelligence
in Gibson's universe. Has a genuine understanding of "everything".
* Loas (Legba) => Pieces of the Supra AI Wintermute/Neuromancer
after they were disassociated.
* AI Guides/Ghosts (Colin, Continuity) => Fairly developed
intelligence. Could pass for a human.
* BioSoft Carriers (Angie) => Such technology allows these
humans to interact with the Matrix continuously.
* Unmodified Human Beings (Kumiko) => Normal people with normal
intelligence.
* Stored Constructs (Dixie) => Human-like intelligence, but
sometimes they forget. They definitely aren't perfect copies.
* Robots (The Judge) => These creations have no intelligence,
but characters like Slick are able to instill them with human
qualities.
~Bill Moller
mollew@rpi.edu
Intelligence Heirarchy
Neuromancer/Wintermute
Loas
Colin
People in the LF (3Jane, Bobby)
Biotech interface to cyberspace (Angie)
Someone jacked in (Case, Virek in vat)
Construct on-line (Dixie)
Augmented human (Molly)
Human (Marly)
mechanical robot
When Case is jacked in, he is more intelligent than molly because he has
access to incredible amounts of information and data. When he is in the meat
world, Molly is more intelligent because her eyesight gives her access to more
information.
Jesse Booth
Drathos <gruelk@rpi.edu>
Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:41:53 -0400 (EDT)
sorry it's a little late...
here's what i managed to pull together:
Godlike AI: WinterMute/Neuromancer
Demi-god: 3Jane
High level AI: Colin
Mid-Level AI: Continuity
Advanced Construct: Finn
Simple Construct: Dixie Flatline
i know there's more, but i had a hard time following the books and this
was all i could remember..
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satan boy <leareth@rpi.edu>
Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
i knew i forgot to mail something last night. :)
well, here's my belated list, i didn't bother to edit it to not
include the duplicates, so forgive the spam.
WinterMute/Neuromancer -- GodLike AI's
Dixie Flatline -- Construct, simple - no memory, no creativity
Finn -- Construct, complex (MLO)
Colin -- AI, high level
3Jane -- Human/Demi-goddess of matrix
Angela -- Bridge between human world/matrix
Molly -- Enhanced human, bladegirl
Count Zero, Case -- Cyberdeck Cowboys
T. Ashpools -- Human clones
Continuity -- Mid level AI
Legba, Samedi -- Horsemen (AI splits from wintermute/neuro)
Grande Briggite -- Horseman but more, "I am of a different order"
Josef Virek -- Human/Matrix Entity
in no particular order, just as i thought of them...
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